tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post6183720746145891070..comments2023-02-21T05:11:37.849-07:00Comments on AmericaWest/USAirwaysPilotSuesFlightAttendantCrew: AmericaWest/USAirwaysPilotSuesFlightAttendantCrewcabin crew of 3http://www.blogger.com/profile/07565010419635901886noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-70273130740644488592009-02-24T11:59:00.000-07:002009-02-24T11:59:00.000-07:00To Mark M: Be careful what you wish for, in regar...To Mark M:<BR/> Be careful what you wish for, in regards to FA's wearing skimpy outfits and pole dancing. Have you seen how old, fat and mean, most of these FA's have turned into? Unfortunately this isnt the 70's, where FA's had wieght guidelines....jackpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02916483754793051831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-58413037372897228672009-02-24T11:55:00.000-07:002009-02-24T11:55:00.000-07:00This is the manifestation of a problem ive seen co...This is the manifestation of a problem ive seen coming for years. Flight attendants that think the entire airline industry revolves around them. It started after 9/11 when (most, not all) FA's thought they were "cops". Not about attempted terror and the like, but about everything in the air. <BR/>Let's keep in mind here, that you are ONLY FA's. Let's stick with our job description. You know, coffee tea or milk....two exits front and back.....<BR/>See, i can do it and im not even a FA. Now lets see one of you highschool graduate, FA's fly a commercial airliner. <BR/>Cool it with the delusions of granduer that many FA's seem to have about themselves and their job. What the hell is a FA doing checking the wings for ice, when there are pillows to pass out.<BR/>When a true emergency arises, I hope this FA is as trained in the things she is supposed to know, as she thinks she is about the things she has absolutely no idea about.<BR/>I am so pro-pilot on this, i cant even put it into words. <BR/>I dont hear the pilot begging for money to pay his legal fees. Fees he didnt choose to have placed on him. On the contrary, this FA chose to bring this frivolous suit to the forefront. Why is she begging for money?? <BR/><BR/>Dont pay this lady a dime!!!!!!!jackpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02916483754793051831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-8214952143635536242009-02-24T08:19:00.000-07:002009-02-24T08:19:00.000-07:00I don't get it....The FA's wanted the plane de-ice...I don't get it....The FA's wanted the plane de-iced and it got de-iced. What is the problem? Oh, yeah, it was that this was not enough for the FA's. They then decided to try to have the FO's career taken away by violating him with the FAA. Sounds a bit extreme. They are getting a tit for tat. At least he is not trying to take their jobs away like they did...you know, their ability to support their families... after they all already took a 60% pay cut since '01.<BR/><BR/>How do I contribute to the pilot's legal fees?CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03219175026445909485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-48895093828164117872009-02-17T11:24:00.000-07:002009-02-17T11:24:00.000-07:00AWAFAInteresting how you waste your time constantl...AWAFA<BR/>Interesting how you waste your time constantly commenting on a "ridiculous blog". If you were to clearly read this "ridiculous" blog you will see that the FA's and EVEN THE FO have asked US Airways to schedule them apart and US Airways refuses to do so! God forbid anything like this ever happens to you as I certainly believe you would no longer think this blog is so "ridiculous". <BR/> <BR/>The FO admitted fault, happens to all of us at one point or another and yet he insists upon going after those that expressed concern. I for one am thankful for their concern and doing whatever it takes to make sure all of those on that flight made it home safely.M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10143469812023603580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-55565653893506494322009-02-15T23:26:00.000-07:002009-02-15T23:26:00.000-07:00TG - You are talking about 2 different incidents. ...TG - You are talking about 2 different incidents. The one here is about the flight attendants talking about deicing BEFORE the plane took off. The latest and tragic incident was because the plane was attempting to LAND in snow and ice in the last minutes of the flight. It was also reported today that the flight crew had the plane on autopilot a violation in landing in icing conditions. These 2 situations are not even remotely related. I still think this blog is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. And the company will not back these flight attendants because it was PROVEN that the pilots did not do anything wrong. The FAA agreed.AWAFAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290146292009907939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-18037241201554468262009-02-15T20:43:00.000-07:002009-02-15T20:43:00.000-07:00EVERYONE is now aware of the extreme danger of ice...EVERYONE is now aware of the extreme danger of ice on the wings after the tragic crash in Buffalo. I'd venture to bet this lawsuit is dropped Monday (tomorrow) morning. And I can't imagine AmericaWest/USAirways doing anything other than covering your legal expenses now. You'll easily have many people joining your cause... the cause to help you sue the pilot! (A suit that would most likely be quickly & quietly settled out of court.)TGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409542828689866947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-90157368792502930162009-02-05T08:52:00.000-07:002009-02-05T08:52:00.000-07:00MARK M. YOU ARE NO DOUBT AN EDUCATED MAN , LOOKIN...MARK M. YOU ARE NO DOUBT AN EDUCATED MAN , LOOKING AT YOUR COMMENTS. YOU 1; DO NOT HAVE THE KNOW HOW TO GAIN INFORMATION . OR 2; YOU ARE A LONELY PERSON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO . YOU REMIND ME OF A COMMON HOUSE FLY BUZZING AROUND A PICNIC TABLE , NEITHER ONE HAS ANY WORTH , THEY ARE SIMPLY A NUSANCE ! WHY DONT YOU READ THE FACTS AND MAKE A CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENT (GOOD OR BAD) OR CRAWL BACK INTO THE SHIT HOLE YOU CAME OUT OF..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11167322279210403630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-77813189693768480732009-02-05T08:14:00.000-07:002009-02-05T08:14:00.000-07:00hey Mark M......this isn't a PORN SITE! apparentl...hey Mark M......this isn't a PORN SITE! apparently, you are on the wrong site that you usually visit!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01092697301146078679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-58051567846513059192009-02-04T16:36:00.000-07:002009-02-04T16:36:00.000-07:00wow a whole $495 raised. that pays for 1 hr for an...wow a whole $495 raised. that pays for 1 hr for an attorney? I have an idea - lets put a pole in the plane and these flight attendants wear skimpy outfits and passengers can put $1 bills into their thongs as they pole dance. i crack myself up at times.Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929524079332572078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-33893534393569586732009-02-04T12:00:00.000-07:002009-02-04T12:00:00.000-07:00hey markM, actually you will have to DECREASE your...hey markM, actually you will have to DECREASE your medications. When you don't get them at a drug store, they can make you go a little 'funny'...if you know what I mean.crocodile_dondiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291561889219188265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-42249765791946854922009-02-03T15:18:00.000-07:002009-02-03T15:18:00.000-07:00I will contribte $25 for a picture of Paula in her...I will contribte $25 for a picture of Paula in her stewardess uniform in high heels. Let me know.Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929524079332572078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-40008363559840086132009-02-03T10:59:00.000-07:002009-02-03T10:59:00.000-07:00The pilots in this case ought to be appreciative, ...The pilots in this case ought to be appreciative, not critical. These F/A's likely saved the pilots jobs, or at least lengthy suspensions. Canadian rules, and conditions attached the Canadian Foreign Air Operator Certificate issued to all airlines authorized to operate into Canada, require all aircraft to be absolutely clean from any contamination on critical surfaces at the time of departure. The Captain does not have the discretion in Canada to depart with even a small amount of contamination - even when he or she believes it is safe to do so - under Canadian Aviation Regulations. In this instance had the deicing crew reported an attempted departure by an aircraft that was not properly deiced, particularly if conditions existed in which other aircraft were being deiced around them, it would have been denied clearance to proceed by ground control until deicing procedures had been completed. Such an incident would have been investigated by Canadian authorities and the airline would have been required to provide not only a plausible explanation of events but assurances that their training programs, including those for cabin attendants, were adequate to prevent a recurrence. Failure to provide both would result in a suspension of the airline's Canadian operating certificate. <BR/><BR/>All ground icing programs approved for Part 121 carriers require training of both front and back end crew on recognizing hazardous conditions and their duty to take appropriate action depending on their crew position. Furthermore, international operations require adherence to the rules of the host country unless the FARs are more restrictive.<BR/><BR/>The mind boggles at the stupidity of the pilot's actions, both during the operation of the aircraft and afterwards.maxflexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07234483558279366702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-17085913982891059832009-02-03T10:57:00.000-07:002009-02-03T10:57:00.000-07:00The pilots in this case ought to be appreciative, ...The pilots in this case ought to be appreciative, not critical. These F/A's likely saved the pilots jobs, or at least lengthy suspensions. Canadian rules, and conditions attached the Canadian Foreign Air Operator Certificate issued to all airlines authorized to operate into Canada, require all aircraft to be absolutely clean from any contamination on critical surfaces at the time of departure. The Captain does not have the discretion in Canada to depart with even a small amount of contamination - even when he or she believes it is safe to do so - under Canadian Aviation Regulations. In this instance had the deicing crew reported an attempted departure by an aircraft that was not properly deiced, particularly if conditions existed in which other aircraft were being deiced around them, it would have been denied clearance to proceed by ground control until deicing procedures had been completed. Such an incident would have been investigated by Canadian authorities and the airline would have been required to provide not only a plausible explanation of events but assurances that their training programs, including those for cabin attendants, were adequate to prevent a recurrence. Failure to provide both would result in a suspension of the airline's Canadian operating certificate. <BR/><BR/>All ground icing programs approved for Part 121 carriers require training of both front and back end crew on recognizing hazardous conditions and their duty to take appropriate action depending on their crew position. Furthermore, international operations require adherence to the rules of the host country unless the FARs are more restrictive.<BR/><BR/>The mind boggles at the stupidity of the pilot's actions, both during the operation of the aircraft and afterwards.maxflexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07234483558279366702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-6824690669953624402009-02-02T22:22:00.000-07:002009-02-02T22:22:00.000-07:00Thank God for attendants like you!!Again,Thank God...<BR>Thank God for attendants like you!!<BR><BR/><BR>Again,<BR><BR/><BR>Thank God for attendants like you!!<BR><BR/>This story reminded me of a flight long ago from Ontario to Phoenix. I, as always, sat in a window seat behind the wing. Upon departure, I noticed a small trail of what appeared to be hydraulic fluid dripping off the wing between the engine and fuselage. I wanted to tell the captain but did not want to cause a riot or unnecessary commotion, which could do more damage than the small leak. I felt confident that the tank capacity would easily sustain the short flight. So I started counting the DPM (drips per minute) to help the time along. It worked, we landed, I was the last to exit the plane, and proceeded to the cockpit to alert the crew. I spoke directly to the captain who was preparing for a turn-around flight. Luckily, he was quite appreciative of the information and my tact Re: not alarming the passengers. He asked if I could point it out, and the co-pilot acknowledged that he was leaving the cockpit to take a look at the leak. It leaks much faster when the engines spool up, I told him. He said thanks he would have it checked out before the plane left again. I’m sure he did, but never found out if the plane was grounded or not. I just knew I did the right thing and so did he. <BR/>In your case I find it amazing that this sort of legal battle can even exist, let alone go un-paid by someone...anyone...PLEASE! <BR/>Have you asked the manufacturer of the de-icing product to help. They don't have much advertizing costs, and they would benefit from a WIN for you in court. If I could afford a dime to help I would, but my house is my main concern right now. I would ask, no, I am begging for a large related company to PLEASE assist you with a major amount of funding and the necessary support to WIN this case and make you examples of the ideal attendants doing the job with the maximum concern for the safety of ALL on board... even the people in the cockpit!<BR/><BR>I always have time for de-icing ALWAYS,...don't you?<BR><BR/>Gary K. ArizonaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11455690337544661395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-25336127121595645372009-02-02T16:38:00.000-07:002009-02-02T16:38:00.000-07:00I still think Flight Attendants Gone Wild video wo...I still think Flight Attendants Gone Wild video would be best way to raise money. Maybe a sequel Flight Attendants and Passengers Gone Wild????Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929524079332572078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-30240728949257706942009-02-01T18:54:00.000-07:002009-02-01T18:54:00.000-07:00I flew for 10 years and dealt with ego's like this...I flew for 10 years and dealt with ego's like this FA. I'm not sure how he was defamed but the smoking gun in this case is the deice crew wrote a report stating that this flight was only flight not deicing.<BR/><BR/>I will support these FA's.<BR/><BR/>BTW, the FAA doesn't care if we read on the jumpseat.FAFOREVERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09030355882172251766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-79493456477478417362009-02-01T00:49:00.000-07:002009-02-01T00:49:00.000-07:00I back the f/a's on this one! People that are not ...I back the f/a's on this one! People that are not in the airline world don't understand what we go thou.. It would not surprise me if mark m was not the FO! If I saw ice on the wing I would have done the same thing! It's not the f/a's problem if their sup. Called the FAA.<BR/><BR/>Mark did you get turned down by a male flight attendant? And btw mark last summer I evac a 767 in under 60 sec so u can kiss my ass!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09471606764975773145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-7358184826889949212009-01-31T22:29:00.000-07:002009-01-31T22:29:00.000-07:00Ignore the troll people and maybe, just maybe, he'...Ignore the troll people and maybe, just maybe, he'll go away! For the record, the flight attendants didn't run to the FAA with this. When they reported it to their inflight department, it was then that the supervisor got the FAA on the phone. It's pretty simple really....two wrongs don't make a right and suing people who clearly don't have 2 million dollars is not only a waste of the courts time but also taxpayer money.callmecactushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693335293675681395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-17737114119302739222009-01-31T15:54:00.000-07:002009-01-31T15:54:00.000-07:00Mark M,Are you looking for attention or do you tru...Mark M,<BR/><BR/>Are you looking for attention or do you truly need professional help? I would suggest increasing your medication.DanMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04636691206862518345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-42741299322615078272009-01-30T13:30:00.000-07:002009-01-30T13:30:00.000-07:00i found picture of the FAs Paula doesnt look too ...i found picture of the FAs Paula doesnt look too bad. I will volunteer for a Flight Attendants Gone Wild with Passenger Video which we could sell to raise money to help you. Maybe you could dump some drinks on me ,tie me up with seatbelts and then we join the 6mile-high club? Wil you wear a short uniform with stilleto heels?Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929524079332572078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-23549415733273865292009-01-30T11:40:00.000-07:002009-01-30T11:40:00.000-07:00Once again FLIGHT ATTENDANTS are nothing more than...Once again FLIGHT ATTENDANTS are nothing more than waitresses in the sky... nothing more than a flying HOOTERS GIRL only HOOTERS GIRLS are at least good looking. Get back to serving drinks and picking up trash -- LET THE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS FLY THE PLANE!!!Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929524079332572078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-3304318792476695392009-01-30T11:38:00.001-07:002009-01-30T11:38:00.001-07:00Mark M, your are a moron!! Nice investigative repo...Mark M, your are a moron!! Nice investigative reporting finding their names, it's only been mentioned a dozen times what newspaper the article was written in. And you seem like a real class act calling the flight attendants "waitressess". Go back to your homophobic cave and leave real life to the rest of us.azsmallshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11786819570754440555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-58892330322259043602009-01-30T11:38:00.000-07:002009-01-30T11:38:00.000-07:00Sounds like most of you are employees of US Airway...Sounds like most of you are employees of US Airways or married to a pilot. I'm neither but I do fly occasionally and it will never be on US Air again. The FO will deice if a lowly passenger complains about ice but not if a flight attendant does. Now that's sound logic! I hope this does go to trial and I'm on the jury. The FO won't get a dime!!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073814134315168378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-21344010826135497142009-01-30T11:00:00.000-07:002009-01-30T11:00:00.000-07:00Here are the names:Paula Walker, Brian Shunick, an...Here are the names:<BR/><BR/>Paula Walker, Brian Shunick, and Sue Burris <BR/><BR/>I would be VERY CONCERNED if any of these 3 were on my flight. I am writing USAIR to request they be placed on LEAVE pending the outcome of this trial. THe last thing we need is a FA freaking out over this matter and putting passengers lives at risk.<BR/><BR/>They are obviously disgruntled employees who cant work with flight crews. What if the flight crew declares an emergency and these FAs decide there is NO emergency and question the flight crews???<BR/><BR/>US AIR would be advised to suspend these people without pay pending the outcome of this trial.Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929524079332572078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487247491991630392.post-67003023018881558852009-01-30T10:50:00.000-07:002009-01-30T10:50:00.000-07:00WOW! $180 so far! Nice support! The FO in this m...WOW! $180 so far! Nice support! The FO in this matter has spent $21,000 in his defense of your allegations which were dismissed by the FAA. Next time I see you sitting on your jumpseat reading a book, magazine, knitting a sweater, or anything not in accordance to prescribed FAA mandated safety rules and policies while "in flight," I will mention this in my report to the FAA about your safety violations.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04727886762414275628noreply@blogger.com